May 6, 2002
Fuel Depot Committee
May 6, 2002
The meeting of the Fuel Depot Committee evened at 7:00 p. m. on Monday,
May 6, 2002 in the Town Office Budding
Members present: Roberta Weil, Don Miskill, Nancy Andersen, Lee
Overall, Walter Norton, Rob Williams and John Lloyd. Also in attendance
was Selectman Jim Knight.
The first order of business was the election of officers. Upon a
motion, duly made, seconded and voted unanimously was Roberta Weil as
Chair. A motion was made to elect Toby john as Secretary. It was seconded
and voted unanimously.
A motion was made to accept the Minutes of the Meeting of April 1,
2002. It was seconded and voted unanimously,
Old Busiutess: Status of Projects:
New-keyed alike locks have bow order from Rogers True Value in Bath.
Roofing for Guard Shack Emery Sawyer will do the job. Picnic Tables:
Waiting to hear from Maine Vocational Region X
Vandalism on the property was addressed_ The two houses have been
Moving soil around the culvert area: Ron Ponziani will give estimates
for cleaning up around the culverts and removing rocks.
Tom Lawless from GZA will be taking samples from the monitoring wells
on May 9, 2002. Wilkes Harper from Maine DEP will also be there.
Walking trails - signage will be posted on the fence side of the
Portable toilets will be delivered on May 15, 2002 and will be placed
next to the Guard Shack.
Picnic tables should be handicapped accessible_ Maybe also have some
log seats mane and placed strategically.
Pet exercise area: Should there be one? Don Miskill has offered to
donate fencing. New Business:
Proposals for use of the property.
Tyco Telecommunications is looking for a place to dock
two (2) cable ships, which are each approximately 550 feet long. A
representative frorn Tyco contacted Roberta U61. It was suggested that
further discussions would involve explaining the Town process, in such
It was suggested that an economic impact study be performed to examine
the effect of a *or industry on the quality of fife in Harpswell.
Houses' Mary Hunt from the Navy Environmental office is
person for the final environmental inspection by the Navy. The larger of
the two houses is in actuality a log cabin which has been covered over by
asbestos siding. The houses should be turned over
two (2) months.
Electric. Favreau Electric is willing to get onto the property within
the next few wee s to make sure we comply with CMP regulations.
Letter to Dick Wyer. A letter should be written to Dick Wyer asking him
to remove his personal belongings and tools from the property.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, Nancy S. Andersen
October 7, 2002
Town of Harpswell
Minutes of the Meeting of the
Fuel Depot Committee
October 7, 2002
The meeting of the Fuel Depot Committee convened at 7:20 PM on
October 7, 2002 in the Town Office Building.
Members Present: Roberta Weil (Chair), Rob Williams, Walter
Norton, John Flocher, and Lee Overall. Also in attendance was Selectman
Minutes of the prior meeting were accepted and approved.
Status of the Generators: The generators have been determined to
be unusable as they were never licensed by the State and cannot meet the
new air emission standards. ~S AA s will work to obtain bids to sell
them as scrap.
Status of the Water Tower: The water tower is a potential
nuisance. Frank Hilton of the Fire Dept. informed Mrs. Weil that the
cost of keeping the tank maintained, heated and in working order would
be prohibitive. Mrs. Weil has requested that a letter from the Fire
Dept., stating that they have no desire to use the tower, be sent to the
Selectmen. Jim Knight will get bids on the tank "as is" or as scrap. The
tower is now in a separate locked, fenced area. The Committee
recommends, for additional safety, that "No Trespassing" signs be posted
and that the ladder be blocked off to discourage climbing.
Discussion of Budget: There was a discussion of the budget items
to be proposed for 2003.
Reserve Account (Hold Over Account) $8,236
One -Time Expenses
John Flocher, Jim Knight, and Emery Sawyer will survey the
remaining masonry and roofing repair work and estimate the cost.
Signs: $400 An amount of $400. will be requested for more
permanent (and more visible) signs, particularly for dog
regulations, "No Trespassing" for the water tower, and "Pass At Your
Own Risk" for the pier. "No Hunting" signs will be purchased for the
exterior of the perimeter fence.
Portable Toilet $880
Tables: $210 Tim Vail has donated enough wood for 3 tables. One
is completed and two others should be done before the end of the
year. Two additional tables are to be built, making a total of 5.
The Boy Scouts have volunteered to stain them.
Mrs. Weil will complete the budget and submit it to the Budget
Status of the Fuel Depot Projects:
Mowing: Approximately one third of the property was mowed
at no charge by Morton Morgan. The committee suggested that a
contract for this work be drawn up for next year.
Brickwork and Roofing: Emery Sawyer has completed the work on the
guard house roof. There is a lot of work remaining. Jim Knight, John
Flocher and Emery Sawyer will report.
Cleanup: Don Miskill and several volunteers
have installed six mileage posts and cleared some trails. Dog
owners are still not cleaning up after their dogs. Mrs. Weil will
look into a dog waste disposal system.
Status of the Pipeline: The committee would like to draft an
article to accept the pipeline for Town Meeting. We will get a VRAP, which
protects the town from any environmental liability, only after we accept
the pipeline. Mrs. Weil and Jim Knight will follow up.
Status of the Houses: The two houses are still in review by the U.
S. Navy Remediation Group. We need to think about their future. The Navy
will no longer provide mowing or snow plowing. The Committee may suggest
razing the small building and look into restoring the larger building.
Other Matters: Jim Knight will find out the approval status of the
Volunteer Liability Release Form submitted to the Selectmen.
We will need to address repairing the growing cracks in the roadways
and removal of the rocks in field.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:50 PM Respectfully submitted, Lee
November 4, 2002
Town of Harpswell
Minutes of the Meeting of the
Fuel Depot Committee
November 4, 2002
The meeting of the Fuel Depot Committee convened at 7:00 p.m. on
Monday, November 4, 2002 in the Town Office Building.
Members present: Roberta Weil, Nancy Andersen, Lee Overall, Walter
Norton, Rob Williams and John L/oyd.
A motion was made to accept the Minutes of the Meeting of October 7,
2002. It was seconded and voted unanimously to accept the Minutes as
Roberta Weil reported that a letter had been sent to the Fire
Department requesting an official statement from them that they do NOT
want the Water Tower.
Review of the Budget request for the Fuel Depot, suggested that $12,000
be removed from the "masonry" line and be Oy1 -ot-o the
"Repair and Maintenance" line. As it is already in the "Repair and
It was recommended that a formal request should be made to the
Harpswell Channel to publicize that there is to be "no hunting" on the
Fuel Depot property and that walkers should wear orange.
The status of the two(2) houses is still in a holding pattern waiting
for word from Stephanie Zamorski from the Department of the Navy.
Concerns about the future of the pipeline and whether or not the Town
should take it were voiced. John Lloyd believes we have to take it. It
would be a greater risk not to take it. Conditions could be set.
A discussion of the pipeline produced the following results:
1. Recommend to the Selectmen to turn the property over to the present
or abutting landowners and 2. Send a letter to the property owners ASAP to
notify them of potential issues with the pipeline and of the legal
requirement to notify Dig Safe should they need to dig.
Nancy S. Andersen
December 2, 2002
Draft Minutes, Harpswell Fuel Depot Implementation Committee, December
Chairman Weil brought the meeting to order at 1915. Committee present
were: Roberta Well, Robert Williams, John Floccher, Nancy Anderson,
Shirley Thompson, John Loyd, Wallace Tobin, and Lee Overall. Mr. . Frank
Hilton was present to propose use by the West Harpswell Fire Department of
the two houses near the main gate to the property. Selectman David Mercier
joined at 1925.
Minutes of the November 4th meeting were approved as distributed.
Mr. Hilton suggested the desirability of allowing the WHFD to use the
two houses on a basis to be resolved for the purpose of providing
subsidized housing for EMT's associated with the Fire Department. He said
it is difficult to recruit qualified EMT's, and this arrangement
would be an incentive which has proved successful elsewhere (York Beach
was cited as an example). On another matter he confirmed that the
WHFD does not want the water tower, and stated that WHFD could bring it
down and dispose of it. Mr. Hilton left at 1935.
After considerable discussion the committee consensus was that while
this was an idea worth pursuing, we should recommend to the selectmen that
they solicit other ideas for the use of the houses to ensure that we
recommend the best alternative.
Mr. Loyd reported that his committee on Group Use of
the site would meet soon, and would propose language for the selectmen to
incorporate in the warrant for the Town Meeting.
The committee consensus concerning snowplowing was to recommend to the
selectmen to limit plowing to the parking lot.
Mr. Miskill had suggested a new trail in the property, but in his
absence it was decided to table the concept until he could be present to
After the meeting Mrs. Weil reported that the Budget Advisory Committee
would consider the recommendations of the Fuel Depot Committee December
11, and that she would gather information on the cost of removal of the
water tower prior to that date. The meeting adjourned at 2023 after fixing
the date for the NEXT MEETING ON JANUARY 13, 2003.
January 13, 2003
Draft Minutes, Harpswell Fuel Depot Implementation Committee,.
Chairman Weil brought the meeting to order at 1910. Committee present
were: Roberta Weil, Nancy Andersen, Lee Overall, and Wallace Tobin. Others
present were Gordon Weil and Selectman James McKnight.
The draft minutes of the meeting of December 2nd,
2002 were approved as distributed.
Mrs. Weil distributed copies of a letter from Frank Hilton, President,
Harpswell Neck Fire and Rescue, Inc. A summary follows;
HNFR has no interest in owning or disposing of the water tower
HNFR makes no proposal at this time re two houses expected to be
deeded to the town by the
Navy, but is willing to explore a grant of the properties.
HNFR may in future wish the town to relocate the water tower fence
to avoid encroachment on HNFR property.
Gordon Weil reported on his investigations concerning the two large
generators on the property:
They may be more than 60 years old; they are operable, but have not
been operated for 10 years; they do not meet current EPA standards for
air emissions in excess of 500 hours per year, and upgrading them to
current emission standards would not be economically feasible.
He recommends disposing of them as scrap metal.
He suggested that the town explore the possibility of installing
contemporary generating capacity of about 2 megawatts on the site,
indicating that capacity and energy could be sold to the New England
Power Grid, with guaranteed capacity payments sufficient to fund the
installation even if the facility were not called upon to produce
energy. Any energy sales would produce extra revenue.
The committee indicated an interest in further details of the
proposal, which Mr. Weil said would be available in several weeks.
Mr. Weil left at 1945, and a discussion of power and telecommunications
options followed. The water tower might make a good site for
telecommunications antennae, but such use would require a modification of
the current tower ordinance which limits such use to the town land in the
vicinity of the Town Offices.
Mr. Knight intends to obtain information on getting a survey of the
water tower to determine its condition and viability as a water storage
facility, and also on the options for preventing freezing in winter.
The committee is invited to a public hearing on the possible acceptance
by the Town of the easement(s) for the Navy pipeline, at Harpswell School
at 1900 January 27.
Discussions of rules for group use of the Fuel Depot, and of
implementing additional trails, were postponed as the pertinent
sub-committee members were not present.
After setting the NEXT MEETING FOR 1900, MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD,
the meeting adjourned
May 5, 2003
Draft Minutes, Harpswell Fuel Depot Implementation Committee, May 5,
The meeting came to order at 1905. Committee present were: Roberta
Weil, Robert Williams, John Floccher, Nancy Andersen, Shirley Thompson,
Donald Miskill, Wallace Tobin, and Lee Overall. Selectman James Knight and
Recreation Director Elizabeth Bouvet were also present.
Mr. Knight reminded those who have not done so of the need to be sworn
in before the town clerk. Election of a chairman was deferred until all
had been sworn in. Mr. Tobin and Ms Andersen agreed to serve as
secretaries on a mutually convenient rotating basis.
Minutes of the meeting of March 3rd were approved as
distributed after correcting the spelling of Ms Andersen's name.
Mr. Knight reported on the pier and water tower as follows:
A bid is in hand for $4400 to fence the pier to prevent
unauthorized access beyond the low water mark.
Appropriate "No trespassing" signage will be placed on the pier
The former intake for the salt water fire control system,
considered by insurance agencies to be a "well", has been filled with
Use of the water tower to support communications antennae will, in
the opinion of town counsel, require modification of the town tower
ordinance. Ms Weil reported a conversation in which she learned that
wireless phone companies may have the right of eminent domain to
install their antennae on water towers. Mr. Knight expressed doubt
about this report.
Arrangements will be made to provide a handicap portable toilet at
the site May 15-September 15
Scout troops are expected to participate in a general clean-up,
including a stone pick-up facilitated by the loan of Mr. Floccher's
truck, and painting the existing picnic tables. Status of additional
tables is unknown.
They will also help in pulling tree limbs which Mr. Miskill has
pruned back away from the trails.
Mr. Knight reported that a bid for grounds maintenance and selected
mowing exceeded funds available, and could not be accepted.
A sign-in sheet with space for comment will be placed at the gate
with a request that users sign in so we can develop some specific
information about usage.
Ms Weil reported that the GZA company would provide the town with a
copy of their final report on the environmental clean-up conducted by the
Navy, and on-going ground-water reports.
Mr. Knight reported that there has been no response from the Navy
concerning the town's vote to accept the pipeline, and agreed to contact
the Navy representative with whom we have been working to determine the
There was consensus that we should be working toward resolution of the
following matters for recommendation to the selectmen this year:
Policy for Group Use
Policy for use of the residential houses
Policy for use by campers
Policy for the general plan of designating areas for recreation,
business, and conservation
June 2, 2003
Draft Minutes, Harpswell Fuel Depot Implementation Committee, June 3,
The meeting came to order at 1905. Committee present were:, John
Floccher, Donald Miskill, Walter Norton, Lee Overall, Shirley Thompson,
Wallace Tobin, Roberta Weil and. Robert Williams. Selectman James Knight
was also present.
The minutes of the May 5th meeting were approved after
revising the consensus caption to read "... for recommendation to the
selectmen and Town Meeting this year".
Roberta Weil was elected chairman and Nancy Andersen and Wallace Tobin
The full committee will work on developing recommendations for the
General Plan, and for sources of revenue.
Sub-committees were formed as follows for developing policy
recommendations on other matters:
Group use: Floccher, Loyd, Miskill, Williams
Camping: Overall, Thompson
Residential Buildings: Norton, Thompson, Tobin
A device for dispensing bags for pet-droppings will be installed at the
No town funds are budgeted for mowing; Jeff Hathaway and others have
volunteered to assist. The Committee recommends reimbursing their fuel
expenses for mowing the town-owned land, and intends to request the Navy
to mow its property until the residential buildings have been deeded to
the town, which is expected to occur in September/October 2003.
Word-of-mouth communication will be used to identify an entity to
remove the lumber in the vicinity of the former administration building
with salvage rights to the lumber in lieu of monetary compensation. Mr.
Knight reported three bids are in hand for limiting access to the pier,
one will be chosen by
selectmen June 5th. No progress on the legal
issues concerning the water tower. Ladder on the tower will be cut off to
discourage unauthorized access. Still looking for an insurer for the site.
Spring clean-up will begin @ 1100 Saturday, June 14th. Scout
troops will assist with rock pick-up and table painting. The public is
invited to help, and the committee is requested to be present.
Mrs. Weil reported that the GZA final report is in the town files, that
GZA did semi-annual monitoring last week, that the installation of new
generators is not economically feasible at this time, and that the
portable toilet is in place.
Mr. Knight asked the committee to recommend a plan for expanded parking
facilities for approval by the town meeting.
Mr. Knight will cause a certified pipeline vote to be sent to Stephanie
Zamorski to expedite the transfer of the pipeline easement to the town.
After setting the NEXT MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JULY 1 ST,
AT 1900 at the Town Office, the meeting adjourned at 2030.
July 1, 2003
Draft Minutes, Harpswell Fuel Depot Implementation Committee, July 1,
The meeting came to order at 1905. Committee present were: Nancy
Andersen, John Floccher, John Loyd, Walter Norton, Lee Overall, Shirley
Thompson, Wallace Tobin, and Roberta Weil. Selectman James Knight was also
present, as were Karen O'Connell, Bernice Kenny, and Richard Neiman from
the Comprehensive Plan Committee.
The minutes of the June 3rd meeting were approved.
A general discussion or the objectives of the two committees followed.
There appeared to be general congruence. More parking is needed,
commercial use should neither compete with existing businesses nor have
any adverse environmental impact, recreational use is desirable, as is
access to water and open space, no portion will be sold, and no funds will
be accepted which oblige Harpswell to make the facility available to
Mr. Rick Meisenbach, of the Recreation Committee, joined at 1915. The
Comprehensive Plan members left at 1955.
Mr. Knight reported that a new insurer has been identified for the town
with a premium reduction of $20,000, broader coverage, and no requirement
to fence the pier. He has asked the fire department to demonstrate their
ownership of the property they claim by means of a current survey, and to
file all documentation with the town office for review by the selectmen.
Mrs. Weil asked that the lower end of the water tower ladder be removed,
even if not required by the insurer.
An inconclusive discussion concerning removal of brush followed. Mort
Morgan will hay the property at no cost to the Town.
After discussion it was agreed that the Recreation Committee should
make a detailed recommendation concerning possible soccer and skating
After their recent site visit it was agreed to invite the Marine
Resource and Shellfish committees to send representatives to our next
After fixing the NEXT MEETING FOR 1900 SEPTEMBER 8, AND RESERVING
SEPTEMBER 18 FOR A SPECIAL MEEETING, the committee adjourned at 2055.
Respectfully Submitted, Wallace Tobin
October 6, 2003
Draft Minutes, Harpswell Fuel Depot Implementation Committee, October
The meeting came to order at 1905. Committee present were: Nancy
Andersen, John Floccher, Donald Miskill, Walter Norton, Lee Overall,
Shirley Thompson, Wallace Tobin, and Roberta Weil. Selectman James Knight
was also present, as were two members of the public, and Elizabeth Bouve,
The minutes of the July 1, 2003 meeting were approved.
Mr Knight reported that the status of the pipeline and the residential
buildings intended to be transferred to Harpswell is unresolved..
Mrs Weil reported that she has been unable to determine the status of
the alleged federal law allowing cell phone companies to append antennae
to water towers arbitrarily, with no fees payable. Several members
expressed concern over the deterioration of the pier and the buildings
near it, and requested that their removal, or correction in the case of
the pier, be costed out for further consideration. Don Miskill and Liz
Bouve will bring to the next meeting their recommendations for recreation
facilities to be recommended for next year's budget.
Mrs Weil will thank Mort Morgan for mowing the property.
Parking was again discussed, and it was suggested that if the water
tower is removed there will be good space available near the entrance to
Ms Bouvé suggested the desirability of opening gates to allow less
mobile persons to tour the property by car October 18th & 19th
, 1300-1500. A consensus supported this suggestion, but it may need
endorsement of the selectmen, or the town meeting, to be approved.
Prior committee assignments as outlined in the minutes of June 3rd
The agenda was completed at 2015.
After responding informally to questions from the members of the
public, and fixing the NEXT
MEETING FOR 1900 MONDAY NOVEMBER 3RD, the meeting adjourned
at 2050, Respectfully submitted,